vtu@home boinc project
The project http://boinc.vtu.lt/vtuathome/ is a test project. It is developed to test the BOINC platform and to learn the BOINC API. The project is still incomplete and your notes, suggestions and comments are appreciated.
The aim of the project is to count the quantity of prime numbers in a large interval. The worst algorythm is used, as we need a lot of computing hours and many workunits. The client side application gets the beggining and the end numbers of the interval and divides every number from this interval by every number from 1 to it self. As we know there are better algorythms:
1. To divide the current number only by every number from 1 to sqrt(itself);
2. To divide the current number only by every known prime number from 1 to sqrt(itself); This one is the best known algorythm. In some modifications division operation can be changed into some set of sum operations.
We have some plans for future:
1. To use the platform to solve a wire bundle parametrical optimization problem
2. To use the platform to solve medicine research problems
3. To use the platform to solve any interesting suggested problem. Your suggestions are also appreciated.
Thank you fellows for help and contribution.
Three questions:
When will stats be enabled?
When will message boards be enabled?
When will work units with less that quorum of results be resent to another host to complete?
Thanks.
Comment by Dr. Bill Skiba — June 13, 2006 @ 10:50 pm
We are working on this. I am looking for a way, how to do it, but still haven’t found it. I guess it is quite easy, but hidden in the system.
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — June 14, 2006 @ 7:53 am
Have just enabled the message and question boards. Also have just enabled the stats formation job. Stats are generated every 2 hours. You can access the stats source through http://boinc.vtu.lt/vtuathome/stats/
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — June 15, 2006 @ 10:39 am
Do you want the stats showen on international stats websites like http://www.boincsynergy.com/stats/ or http://www.boincstats.com? We show projects in all stages of development, and if your after more exposure for the development stage this will definately bring in more interest.
Zain
http://www.boincsynergy.com
Comment by Zain — June 18, 2006 @ 7:44 am
Is there any reason why the project has gone down/offline? I appreciate that this is only a test project and of little consequence. I’m sure that when you start your “real” project you will have plenty of volunteers.
Comment by Trog Dog — June 21, 2006 @ 12:58 pm
Yes there was a reason – the network was down. As the project is still a test project the server is not connected to the ups,the network is not monitored for crashes and etc. As the “real” project will be prepared the server will be moved to the special server room with monitored network and will be connected to the ups. I am waiting for the “real” project to be prepared.
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — June 22, 2006 @ 1:12 pm
>To Zain
Yes, you can show our project stats on international websites. We are happy you are interested in this test project.
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — June 29, 2006 @ 9:12 am
There is a problem with the Windows application not finding DLLs. I believe that you need to fix this (mostly so you understand what is going on for the real project). This is detailed on the message boards.
Comment by John McLeod VII — July 1, 2006 @ 2:29 am
Lookin how to solve this problem. Do you know any solution?
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — July 1, 2006 @ 9:59 am
If you would like a forum mod to help with communication between the staff and the crunchers I’m willing to help out with this.
I currently mod over on QMC. One of the things I try to do is monitor the boards and let Martin (the admin there) know about any problems that turn up.
Kathryn
Comment by Kathryn — July 1, 2006 @ 3:42 pm
I do not know what you meen? Could you explain how it works.
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — July 1, 2006 @ 3:49 pm
No, I don’t know how to solve the problem with the DLLs that are not being distributed. Have you tried the BOINC Dev mail list?
Comment by John McLeod VII — July 2, 2006 @ 6:19 am
Yes i’ve found the solution about Dll’s I’ll improve it as soon as i will have some time:)
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — July 3, 2006 @ 9:25 am
Is it worth spending a few hours to make your project thousands of times faster?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_of_Eratosthenes
Comment by jasonp — July 7, 2006 @ 2:51 pm
I think it is not worth to use the described algorythm as the project is only for testing and a huge amount of computing time is a plus not a minus:) We just testing the environment and learning to program useing BOINC API.
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — July 10, 2006 @ 8:18 am
i installed the vtu@home application in boinc. when it loads the data it has no finish time in it. this is preventingboinc from properly allocating resouces and as a result it is not alowing any other programs of boinc to run or update.
when it runs the progres does not update as well. currently ( as of this writing it has been running for 41hours 53 minutes and still shows no progress percentage or estimated finish time.
can you please supply a fix for this issue or tell me if i should dump the projuect
thanks for your assistance
Comment by srb6101 — July 19, 2006 @ 1:23 am
Yes the finish time is not set, as i am a novice boinc programmer. We are preparing for an important project an i have no time to fix some bad issues with this test project. And the workunit usually runs for 40 minutes, the percentage to completion must also appear. Do you run windows or linux boinc application?
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — July 19, 2006 @ 7:51 am
i am running boinc under windows vista and it has been stable all the way through. and when i finally suspended the project i had allowed it to run for 48 hours 40 minutes
Comment by srb6101 — July 19, 2006 @ 6:48 pm
i did forget to mention that at no time did the progress percentage change it remaines at a constant 0.000%
Comment by srb6101 — July 19, 2006 @ 6:50 pm
Is it possible for some feedback to be given on your site?
I attached to the project almost a week ago, and along with other participants, I am receiving and completing work units. No credits are being granted for any of the work – all credit is still pending. Messages have been left in the forum but no replies received.
Comment by John Hunt — July 21, 2006 @ 6:48 am
As i’ve wrote for some time’s this project is for testing purposes. we are creating a checklist we’ll follow after we will start a serious project on BOINC platform. We are learning. There is no time for us to fix all problems or to monitor the forum as we are preparing the other application. sorry for misfunctions and thank you for collaboration.
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — July 21, 2006 @ 8:01 am
I joined this project on 16 July. So far, other than the posts on this blog, I have not seen any admin presence on the Forum boards at all. Some crunchers have been asking when will work be validated. What is the reply from admin? Nothing!!
I have now suspended all work on vtuhome until admin bring us up-to-date with what is happening………….
(a copy of this message has been posted on the Forum board)
Comment by John Hunt — July 24, 2006 @ 9:27 pm
One suggestion is that when you do go live, all of the people that have helped you test here, also get to start testing the real project. I see two ways of doing this:
1) Keep the real project at the same URL as the test project.
2) Migrate everyone’s accounts and notify everyone – both on the front page of the test project, and by email (I believe that there are email broadcast facilities built into BOINC – but I could be wrong about this).
Comment by John McLeod VII — July 27, 2006 @ 4:48 am
Would you please deal with the credits from the person that obviously did not earn all of the credits that have been granted to him? This is looking bad for the project, and any future projects that you might start as well. You are starting to lose some of th crunchers over this.
Comment by John McLeod VII — July 30, 2006 @ 2:35 am
I appreciate that this is a test project and that the results have no scientific purpose, but it seems as though the validator has stopped working, or been turned off. Could you please advise.
Comment by Trog Dog — July 30, 2006 @ 9:09 am
Good luck with learning all this BOINC stuff I guess it is pretty hard for you to get use to, hope to see whatever project it is you are working on come out for real soon.
Carry on the good work, remember there are people sat here waiting patiently for you to come up to speed
Comment by UBT - Halifax--lad — August 2, 2006 @ 11:35 pm
The validator sudenly stopped to validate results. After two weeks of search i’ve found out a problem. There was a host with a very big amount of credits granted. I don’t know how this happened, but the amount was something like 1.556456465465446545+e88. It is a very huge number of credits. Tha validator was allways to fail, if the workunit being validated, contained a result from this host. I’ve just deleted all the results from this host and all the set host credits to zero. The validator started to work. Sorry for bad experience.
Keep on good work dear contributors. I’ll try to help you to help us…
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — August 8, 2006 @ 3:54 pm
Thank You!!! We appreciate you had problems with the validator, but a little bit of communication and feedback from you would have prevented a lot of the bad feelings. I have started ‘crunching’ again for the project.
Comment by John Hunt — August 9, 2006 @ 11:54 am
Do you have any projected time frame for the release of your “real work” project? Weeks, months?
Comment by Dr. Bill Skiba — September 25, 2006 @ 5:56 pm
Dr. Bill Siba, I was waiting for this question.
The timetable is not yet decided. There are some institutios who are interested in this type computing power. They know about this possibility and they are always speeking that they will give some material soon. But as i know they still do not have enough finance to complete thei wishes an promises to us. But I am sure thay also have a dead line. It can be something like 1.5 years.
In something like half a year I am going to deploy more serious project whitch will help me to learn how to work with boinc graphics. This project will be nice, i think, and interesting for many people…
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — September 26, 2006 @ 8:11 am
Could you tell me if the vtu@home BOINC project is 100% not-for-profit? I would assume so, but I haven’t seen it stated explicitly anywhere. Thanks in advance.
Comment by picantecomputing — February 13, 2007 @ 6:31 am
Yes you are right – the vtu@home is not for profit and all the further applications who will be run on this boinc server will be for science – not profit.
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — February 13, 2007 @ 10:40 am
Is it possible to have hosts merged?
http://boinc.vtu.lt/vtuathome/hosts_user.php?userid=461&show_all=1&sort=rpc_time
Computer ID 769 became 4800 when it was reattached to vtu@home.
Computer ID 925 became 4714 when I reinstalled Windows and installed a new version of BOINC.
Comment by Jonathan Ferguson — July 30, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
I am not sure I will try to do that …
Comment by aurimas.norkevicius — July 31, 2007 @ 8:50 am
Hello,
I noticed that there’s no client for windows x64, however, if I run boinc for 32bit on my 64 bit system it’s computing fine. Any change you can provide a client for x64 (or just present the 32 bit version as the 64 version)
Comment by stijn — December 26, 2007 @ 11:15 am